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Looking for some constructive critisim for my team.
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GofD
Pokemon Master
Joined: Wed Aug 04, 2010 5:38 pm Posts: 1422 Location: Somewhere in this general area.
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Okay, so I think I made a pretty half decent team on Showdown, and am now trying to get the pokes in game. There are just a few things I'd like some people to take a look at and give there insight. (Before anyone says anything, yes I posted it on Smogon, But after almost 300 views, no one has responded, Heck im not even getting a "this was done incorrectly"message/ locked for in-proper write up).
Im not sure if posting my team/ link to my team would be a good idea ATM. So instead ill just see if anyone is interested and then maybe link it here, copy paste it, or just Pm it to them.
Either way thanks in advance for the help.
_________________ A glass is never empty it will always be full of air, unless its in a vacuum, THEN its empty.
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Tue Dec 10, 2013 3:05 pm |
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MasonTheChef
Pokemon Master
Joined: Sun Jan 13, 2008 5:02 am Posts: 1575 Location: Michigan
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PM it to me and I can look over it for ya.
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Tue Dec 10, 2013 4:14 pm |
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azul
Ace Trainer
Joined: Thu May 26, 2011 3:55 pm Posts: 414 Location: redfield kansas united states of amarica.
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I can look at it but I am bad at saying/seeing the flaws of Pokemon soooo..... Pm the team or link if you want. If you don't no prob.
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Tue Dec 10, 2013 4:49 pm |
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Dare234
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Sun Nov 07, 2010 4:17 pm Posts: 502 Location: Right Here
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I'll give it a look too if you'd like. I'm not the greatest teambuilder in the world but I can give it a look.
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Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:08 pm |
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UberPorpoise
Psychic Trainer
Joined: Sat Nov 23, 2013 8:54 pm Posts: 81
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I am also willing to look at your team.
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Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:20 pm |
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GofD
Pokemon Master
Joined: Wed Aug 04, 2010 5:38 pm Posts: 1422 Location: Somewhere in this general area.
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Okay, I sent all four of you the link Via Pm.
Doesnt really matter if you PM me your thoughts or just post your thoughts here in the thread, whatever floats your boat.
Thanks again!
_________________ A glass is never empty it will always be full of air, unless its in a vacuum, THEN its empty.
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Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:24 pm |
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ChillBill
Pokemon Master
Joined: Tue May 24, 2011 8:10 am Posts: 1143 Location: Beyond the realms of death...
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Hey, hey, I want to see it too! Can I get the link?
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Sat Dec 14, 2013 7:07 am |
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GofD
Pokemon Master
Joined: Wed Aug 04, 2010 5:38 pm Posts: 1422 Location: Somewhere in this general area.
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ChillBill wrote: Hey, hey, I want to see it too! Can I get the link? I have Pmed you the link, Mr.ChillBill. You can either PM me your thoughts or just post em here, however you feel like doing it. I thank you good sir in Advance. Also thanks to Mason and Dare for there thoughts. (Sorry if its a tad late, busy busy busy!)
_________________ A glass is never empty it will always be full of air, unless its in a vacuum, THEN its empty.
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Sat Dec 14, 2013 6:51 pm |
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GofD
Pokemon Master
Joined: Wed Aug 04, 2010 5:38 pm Posts: 1422 Location: Somewhere in this general area.
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Sorry for the double posts, but i figured I'd share with everyone what my team looks like now. Id like to thank those who took the time too look it over. Ill be sending a PM to the mods to close this thread to prevent a wave of people rating. Although not a bad thing, since it would make the battle tower forum more active, I just think things might get out of hand.
Any changes will be in done as Follows:
Red= Before(only applies to move sets) Blue=After
Espeon
Timid 252 Sp.Att/4 Hp/ 252 Speed Magic Bounce Expert Belt
Psyshock Shadow BallLight Screen Dazzling Gleam Hp-Fire
This is one of two possible leads on my team. After playing a few matches, I realized Klefki was a real pain in my butt, so this was my answer. Ive always wanted to do an offensive Espeon, and Gen 6 made it THAT much easier. Psyshock over Psychic for Stab, Shadow Ball for other Psychic Types, Dazzling Gleam for coverage, And HP-Fire for Klefkei and the likes. After a few experimentations, I settled on Expert Belt as the item of choice.Dare suggested that my team should carry one of the screens, and Mason Suggested swapping out Shadow ball for Light screen. I tried this out on Smogon, and I liked what I saw.
Klefkei
Impish 252 Hp/4 Att/252 Def Prankster Focus Sash
T-wave Foul Play Spikes Play rough/Draining Kiss/ Swagger
And this is one of my second possible leads. The set is pretty much self explanatory. The only problem Im having is what to go in the 4th slot. Swagger works well with Foul Play, but I found more often then not, that bit me in the butt. Draining Kiss works well to keep him alive, but doesn't really work with his nature, and Play Rough is nice, and the chance to knock down an opponents attack while doing damage is nice, its coming off an univested stat. Ive tried all 3, but I cant seem to decide what works best.... All three of the people that looked at my team (Dare,Mason and ChillBill) said Swagger is a must if I carry Foul Play. As such, Swagger wins.
Avalugg
Brave 4Hp/ 252 Att/ 252 Def/ 0 Ivs speed Sturdy Leftovers
Avalanche Gyro Ball/Toxic Earthquake Recover
This guy...sweet mother of pearl. This guy may have a bad defensive typing, and have might have a Sp.Def worse than a wet paper bag... but he can sure as heck can take (physical)punishment. I did try a more physical defensive spread with Rapid Spin, but I just didn't like it. So I went more of a Physical route. I kept full investment in Def, since I found that to do better then investing into HP. I kept three of the 4 moves from the defensive set, as I saw those work well, and swapped out Rapid Spin for Gyro ball. All in all, this set works rather well. Mason Suggested either Roar or Toxic in place of Gyro ball, as EQ and Ava provide perfect coverage. I went with Toxic to deal with Rotom-W.
Barbacle
Adamant 4 Hp/ 252 Att/ 252 Speed Tough Claws White Herb
Shell Smash Cross ChopEarthquake Razor Shell Poison Jab
This guy is one of two physical sweepers on my team. This guy loves coming in on a Paralyzed poke (thanks to Klefki) and setting up shell smash, and then preceding to sweep. Really doesn't need much more explanation than that. I do find people tend to quit on me after I take out one of their pokes with this guy though...EQ over Cross Chop for Accuracy.
AegiSlash
Adamant 252 Att/ 4 Def/ 252 Speed Stance change Spell Tag
Sword Dance King's Sheild Shadow Sneak Sacred Sword
The second of my Physical Sweepers. I invested in Speed, cause the AegiSlash I have in game had wonderful Iv's in everything....But Hp. I realize that's a little redundant when he has Shadow Sneak, but it works. This guy also like paralysis, letting him set up at least one Sword Dance. I went with spell tag to power up his Shadow sneak some more. Again, not much explanation needed for this guy's set.Noted that I should have invested EVs in HP, but I dont like looking a gift horse in the mouth when it comes to breeding. Soo ill stick with guy until I see him as a problem. Also Noted that I could run sort of a mixed set with Shadow ball instead of SD.
Dragalge
Modest 252Hp/ 252 Sp.Att/ 4 Sp.Def Poison Point Black SludgeChoice Specs
Sludge Wave Dragon PulseDraco Meteor T-Bolt Focus blast
Ive been flip-flopping between this guy and Trevenant. I decided on this guy (for now.) I have him set up as a Bulky Special sweeper. I know what your thinking "Where's Draco?" Well...I dont like using it. For me the stat drop in Special is too much when this guy is a SPECIAL sweeper. If he was more of a mixed, then yes, id be using Draco. I chose Sludge wave for a bit more OOMPH over Sludge bomb, Focus Blast for Steel types, and T-Bolt for water types. I went with black sludge for some reliable recovery, and also to cause some damage if they decided to use trick on him. I do find him very useful, but I find his Defenses make him very Squishy.As much as I DESPISE Choice items AND Draco Meteor on a purely special poke....I have to agree with Mason, Dragagle needs it....no doubt about it. I still like him though, and doing thoe two changes helped this guy a LOT.
Threats:
Mega Kangaskan wreaks me. Avalugg is able to hold her back, but then she gets to PP Punch set up.
Rotom W- I dont really have a solid check to this guy. I can take it down, but that relys too much on luck.
Conclusion:
I feel like this is the most solid team Ive made to date, but I feel like there are some gaps that could be filled. Klefki's fourth moveslot is hard to chose, and flip flopping between Dragagle and Trevenant in the last slot has me a little confused as to what I want the last poke to do.
Thanks to Everyone that took a look at it. And Fingers Crossed that the Rating center opens soon *fingers crossed*
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